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mccain of arizona wants to know if there was inappropriate access to classified information. the committee also wants to know if cia personnel are responsible for the film's portrayal of torture. it's not every day a film sparks a senate investigation. joining me tonight to talk about it all is david edelstein, chief film critic for the "new york" magazine. great to have you with us. >> thank you so much, ed. >> i want to talk about lincoln first because i went to it twice. because i love history. but i knew i had missed a lot. every word, every sentence is so meaningful. i was so impacted by the second time i saw it. does controversy affect whether films are recognized politically -- political controversy, social change -- >> absolutely. it's more satisfying to talk about the oscars in terms of their politics and the politics of the voters than it is to talk about them artistically because often it's not a measure of artistry. sometimes it is. it's a measure of what will represent the academy best, noblest, if you will. and lincoln really hit the sweet spot because not only
mccain of arizona wants to know if there was inappropriate access to classified information. the committee also wants to know if cia personnel are responsible for the film's portrayal of torture. it's not every day a film sparks a senate investigation. joining me tonight to talk about it all is david edelstein, chief film critic for the "new york" magazine. great to have you with us. >> thank you so much, ed. >> i want to talk about lincoln first because i went to it...
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they were denouncing john mccain as a liberal gun grabber. not only did they not endorse mccain in his 2008 election, they gave him an f rating on their a to f scale as a politician. this competing group with the nra touts an endorsement on their web page from ron paul. ron paul calling them the only no compromise gun lobby in washington. because you know those nra guys, they're the appeasers. and to prove it the gun owners of america points to moments like after the virginia tech shooting when the nra agreed to go along with an effort by the brady campaign to try to tighten up the part of federal background checks to keep people with diagnosed mental ill nets from getting their hands on weapons like the virginia tech shooter did. the n rachlt did work on that with the brady campaign even though nothing came out of that. but the gun owners of america opposed that work. consider the bill that passed the republican-controlled house in 2011. it would force states to accept permits for concealed weapons that were issued in other states. even if t
they were denouncing john mccain as a liberal gun grabber. not only did they not endorse mccain in his 2008 election, they gave him an f rating on their a to f scale as a politician. this competing group with the nra touts an endorsement on their web page from ron paul. ron paul calling them the only no compromise gun lobby in washington. because you know those nra guys, they're the appeasers. and to prove it the gun owners of america points to moments like after the virginia tech shooting when...
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and that surprises me about john mccain. i've known him 82 -- since 1982, we were both elected to the congress together, and it's surprising me that he makes a comment like that that is personal. look, we weren't used. we sent valuable messages. are we used by being photographed by north korean students by advancing the internet by saying your nuclear development, your missile tests are not playing well, that you need to engage, that you need to be less isolated, that you need to talk to south korea, you need to talk to china? i don't believe that we were used. and the internet message, for a country that is closed -- >> yeah. >> -- that has no open access, no -- very few cell phones, very little internet, eric schmidt of google was received like a rock star. google is known by almost everybody in that country. they can't use it. but they aspire to it and so when you send a message like that and bring somebody like eric schmidt, it opens up a lot of possibilities, including the government, which received the message of eric
and that surprises me about john mccain. i've known him 82 -- since 1982, we were both elected to the congress together, and it's surprising me that he makes a comment like that that is personal. look, we weren't used. we sent valuable messages. are we used by being photographed by north korean students by advancing the internet by saying your nuclear development, your missile tests are not playing well, that you need to engage, that you need to be less isolated, that you need to talk to south...
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. >> and if you're john mccain i am sure there is something you could find about him, maybe that he works for a guy called barack obama. that would be enough. the fact that he negotiated a deal, which republicans didn't fare well in, in terms of the tax deal. this guy is so confirmable. >> all right, richard wolff gets the last word. >>> out of the way. obama's coming. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. i think we're looking at a new barack obama. you know the expression let reagan be reagan. i think we're seeing barack obama be barack obama. an in your face challenge to the right wing. he's putting in a guy who knows the lessons of vietnam and iraq and putting him out front, making him his point man as he goes into the war of hawkish republicans who count the months between wars as an unwanted time-out. who like nothing more than the next war to fight. meet barack obama two. he's going to run the way he believes to do it. i like it. i think there's one guy out there by the way ironically rooting for obama. it's t
. >> and if you're john mccain i am sure there is something you could find about him, maybe that he works for a guy called barack obama. that would be enough. the fact that he negotiated a deal, which republicans didn't fare well in, in terms of the tax deal. this guy is so confirmable. >> all right, richard wolff gets the last word. >>> out of the way. obama's coming. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me...
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john mccain, lindsey graham. they were the original band of mavericks. not only did they say nice things when he was leaving. they went out on the campaign trail together. if they think he is a turncoat, what do they think joe lieberman is? it's a joke. they lost their minds over susan rice. they're doing it again. >> here is more from senator lindsey graham. >> i'll have a hard time voting for anybody to be secretary of defense who believes that the surge was a foreign policy blunder. i'll have a hard time supporting anybody for secretary of defense who believes that the iranians are misunderstood, we should just negotiate with them, not sanction them. >> they're really focusing in on some of the things that he has said in the past, including a guy slur over a decade ago. do these things matter in confirmation? >> first of all, lindsey graham is treated with a lot of respect as some kind of national security expert. but it is quite possible to be pro-israeli and also not for a rush to war with iran. it is not incompatible. in people in israel think it's
john mccain, lindsey graham. they were the original band of mavericks. not only did they say nice things when he was leaving. they went out on the campaign trail together. if they think he is a turncoat, what do they think joe lieberman is? it's a joke. they lost their minds over susan rice. they're doing it again. >> here is more from senator lindsey graham. >> i'll have a hard time voting for anybody to be secretary of defense who believes that the surge was a foreign policy...
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the question i'm looking at is, will john mccain in the end vote "aye for his old friend and will democrats bail because of his questions about support for israel? >> well, and also that he's a republican. john, that brings me to you. it is not the first time we had cross-party secretaries. in fact, it happens all the time especially in defense, too. but why in particular do you think the president wants this particular man as his sec def? this particular republican. >> comfort zone. less worried about the politics and want someone with whom you're personally comfortable with. you mentioned it's not terribly unusual. become had a republican at the defense department. barack obama kept bob gates, president bush's defense secretary for continuity there because of iraq and afghanistan. now he's in the second term. he's less worried about the politics. he's prepared to have a fight, a fight not only with republicans but with some democrats. a bit of a controversy. we thought on the susan rice nomination for secretary of state. he pulled the name back. the president signaling i want my team. i w
the question i'm looking at is, will john mccain in the end vote "aye for his old friend and will democrats bail because of his questions about support for israel? >> well, and also that he's a republican. john, that brings me to you. it is not the first time we had cross-party secretaries. in fact, it happens all the time especially in defense, too. but why in particular do you think the president wants this particular man as his sec def? this particular republican. >> comfort...
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. >> and if you're john mccain i am sure there is something you could find about him, maybe that he works for a guy called barack obama. that would be enough. the fact that he negotiated a >>> good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. conservatives compare president obama to hitler over the gun issue? this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> the president and i are determined to take action. this is not an exercise in photo opportunities. >> joe biden says the president is serious about guns. >> you cannot tell me that a kid sitting in the basement for hours playing call of duty and killing people over and over and over again does not desensitize that child to the real life effects of violence. >> and republicans blame video games. the time for excuses is over. katrina vanden hubbell of the nation on what it takes to keep the debate from going in circles. >>> armed in the classroom. we're talking to a teacher tonight about why she wants to carry a weapon in school. >>> and the war on women is back. cecile richards and the attack on planned parenthood. >>> dr
. >> and if you're john mccain i am sure there is something you could find about him, maybe that he works for a guy called barack obama. that would be enough. the fact that he negotiated a >>> good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. conservatives compare president obama to hitler over the gun issue? this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> the president and i are determined to take action. this is not an exercise in photo...
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it seems to me john cornyn is not going to be for chuck hagel or john mccain. i doubt they're going to be for chuck hagel, but they don't have to be -- they just have to not filibuster chuck hagel, which i don't think they would do barring something new here. i think if we can do a respectable job with defending some of his more controversial past statements in these hearings they will ultimately not deny his second pick. sfoo gun control and the whole gun issue, it's the second anniversary of tucson. we have the hearing, preliminary hearing for james holmes out in aurora, colorado, and awful testimony coming out of that all week. if you are reporting this as well, that the nra has been invited to meet with the biden task force, so that joe biden and his group reaching out to try to at least touch base with, of course, the most vigorous and best organized opponents of any kind of gun lobby. >> it would be shock if anything they didn't. they're not going to have a chance if there isn't an effort to reach out the nra and see if there is any possibility of common
it seems to me john cornyn is not going to be for chuck hagel or john mccain. i doubt they're going to be for chuck hagel, but they don't have to be -- they just have to not filibuster chuck hagel, which i don't think they would do barring something new here. i think if we can do a respectable job with defending some of his more controversial past statements in these hearings they will ultimately not deny his second pick. sfoo gun control and the whole gun issue, it's the second anniversary of...
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would john mccain have actually nominated him? >> he doesn't have to nominate him now. he has to figure out which side he stands on. >> there's an important point in history right now where we have to make sure we are very serious with iran. if anybody is out there weakening our position with them, it is incredibly dangerous, and i think it's legitimate for senator mccain or anybody to say, wait a minute. he's an appeaser. does that advance our cause, or does it weaken our cause? so regardless of a blanket -- >> what does serious mean? does serious mean war, or does serious mean we have to take that situation seriously and figure out how we deal with it? >> if i may interrupt, sir, because i can cede the time back to me, if you will. >> thank you, soled da. >> i feel strong. >> i feel that you feel strongly. we'll have to wait and see. they haven't even named the guy yet. give it a moment, will you? thank you. we appreciate it. politics to the macks, which, by the way, i love that title so much. >> it's a show. >> it's a little mini show right here. someone is going to
would john mccain have actually nominated him? >> he doesn't have to nominate him now. he has to figure out which side he stands on. >> there's an important point in history right now where we have to make sure we are very serious with iran. if anybody is out there weakening our position with them, it is incredibly dangerous, and i think it's legitimate for senator mccain or anybody to say, wait a minute. he's an appeaser. does that advance our cause, or does it weaken our cause? so...
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>> john mccain made the statement, i don't want to overquote him but paraphrasing, it is a stretch to call chuck hagel a republican. republicans say despite the vote that occurred since he left the senate he has been a republican in name only. he hasn't really stayed with the party line. if you look back as recently as this last election cycle, he endorsed bob kerrey, a democrat over deb fischer, a republican in that senate race. most of the ire and scrutiny coming from republicans when it comes to chuck hagel. views in the middle east. on iran, on israel. that is the point that many of these -- many of these republican senators including many who sat on the senate armed services committee simply will not back away from. >> as far as -- you deal with apec. apec is a very powerful lobby. they're not going to get involved in this nomination. that's a big factor there. hagel did not endorse mccain. he did not endorse mitt romney. that's certainly playing a role here where republicans -- he's not a party guy. and once again this is a tough spot for the g.o.p. how can you oppose this guy w
>> john mccain made the statement, i don't want to overquote him but paraphrasing, it is a stretch to call chuck hagel a republican. republicans say despite the vote that occurred since he left the senate he has been a republican in name only. he hasn't really stayed with the party line. if you look back as recently as this last election cycle, he endorsed bob kerrey, a democrat over deb fischer, a republican in that senate race. most of the ire and scrutiny coming from republicans when...
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john mccain saying he's going to have serious questions about where john brennan stood as far as those enhanced interrogation techniques were concerned dealing with detainees at guantanamo bay and elsewhere, the critics call it torture. you study this closely, peter. >> i think john brennan will be in an interesting situation when he goes to the confirmation hearing because on the one hand, there are plenty of people in the cia who would claim enhanced interrogation techniques are helpful in the war against al qaeda. and so if he says, well, they weren't, that is something that won't go down too well with some of his future colleagues at the agency assuming he's confirmed. on the other hand, you know, if he says that these techniques produced useful information, that may not go down very well with the senate intelligence committee, which after all has publicly said, senator dianne feinstein, the leader of the committee, saying the techniques have nothing to do with how osama bin laden was finally captured. so that's going to be a kind of fine line to kind of walk. and as fran townsend
john mccain saying he's going to have serious questions about where john brennan stood as far as those enhanced interrogation techniques were concerned dealing with detainees at guantanamo bay and elsewhere, the critics call it torture. you study this closely, peter. >> i think john brennan will be in an interesting situation when he goes to the confirmation hearing because on the one hand, there are plenty of people in the cia who would claim enhanced interrogation techniques are helpful...
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mccain was running a presidential campaign counting the surge under george w. bush. the surge of course the troops going in to iraq, stepping up the troop presence there to try to get iraq under control. you'll remember then senator obama opposed the iraq surge as well. so, the republican party for the most part, many members believe that chuck hagel stepped away from the foreign policy element back then, and was very adamant. he was for the iraq war before he was against it and then was very vocal about being against the surge in iraq and that's really where some of that back and forth started. then you add on top of that some of the statements that he's being criticized for about israel, and iran, and hamas, and you have some growing concerns on the right from the republican party, and senator lindsey graham has articulated those numerous times. jon: the president managed to, well fracture i guess is a good word for it the republican opposition in the house over the fiscal cliff negotiations. he got some republicans to vote in favor of higher taxes, others wo
mccain was running a presidential campaign counting the surge under george w. bush. the surge of course the troops going in to iraq, stepping up the troop presence there to try to get iraq under control. you'll remember then senator obama opposed the iraq surge as well. so, the republican party for the most part, many members believe that chuck hagel stepped away from the foreign policy element back then, and was very adamant. he was for the iraq war before he was against it and then was very...
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you've been severely criticized by john mccain. he was here in "the situation room" this week and i interviewed him after that tweet calling you and eric schmidt useful idiots, a term that they used to call americans who represented the communism during the stall lynn regime. >> do you think that the north koreans are going to take governor richardson and mr. schmidt to see one of those? i don't think so. and so what this does, it provides a propaganda kind of success for this four-star general saving americans coming to see us. finally, how many trips has bill richardson taken to north korea and what have been the results of it? >> he's pretty tough. he hated the fact you went there, that the north koreans could use you for propaganda purposes. >> let me tell you what i think i've been able to bring back. i've been able to bring back american soldiers, american hostages, the remains of seven of our warriors from the korean war. i don't know if senator mccain knows about that. i'm surprised at the personal nature of his comments. w
you've been severely criticized by john mccain. he was here in "the situation room" this week and i interviewed him after that tweet calling you and eric schmidt useful idiots, a term that they used to call americans who represented the communism during the stall lynn regime. >> do you think that the north koreans are going to take governor richardson and mr. schmidt to see one of those? i don't think so. and so what this does, it provides a propaganda kind of success for this...